Thursday, May 07, 2009

Honda: The RC212V isn’t good enough!

Just how good is the Honda RC212V MotoGP racebike...?

That Honda/HRC would say that their MotoGP bike – the 800cc RC212V – just isn’t good enough, would be quite unimaginable for most. Honda/HRC bosses have been known for their ‘pride,’ which sometimes borders on arrogance. However, in a shock move, the company is now admitting that it’s actually the machine and not the man because of which Honda have failed to win races and championships in MotoGP, in the 800cc era.

‘The reason why Dani couldn’t get the championship is because the machine is not good enough. For the last two years, the bike was not at a good level. Our 800cc machine has missed something,’ said HRC boss Shuhei Nakamoto, speaking to MCN. ‘I think Dani’s potential is enough to win the championship, but my feeling is that the machine is not good enough,’ he added.

‘If we don’t win the title in 2009, it is Honda’s responsibility, not Dani’s,’ said Nakamoto. And of course, Pedrosa quite agrees with Nakamoto. 'To be able to win we must improve the motorcycle. My results might hide the problems, but they are there. Look at the other Honda riders. They were half a minute from victory [at Jerez],' he says.

We seriously doubt if Honda/Pedrosa will be serious contenders for winning the MotoGP world title this year. While Stoner and Rossi have won 17 and 14 races each, in the 800cc era, Pedrosa has only won four races.


MotoKing46 said...

the really funny part is that even in admitting the rc212v isn't good enough, honda is showing its old arrogance. this time, the stance is "the rider doesn't matter, he isn't all that important. it's our bike that wins the championships, not the rider!"

yes i admit honda has made some great bikes in the past but it also needs to learn some humility. remember rossi? of course the bike has a major role to play in it but at the end of the day, it's the rider who wins the championships. And pedrosa doesn't look like he has it in him to win a motogp world championship.

ZiggyG said...

Wanna bet Pedrosa will be out of the Repsol Honda team next year? Hayden won the MotoGP championship with Honda in 2006 and they flicked him off in a disgraceful manner at the end of 2008. Pedrosa hasn't even won a single MotoGP championship so why should they have any mercy on him? That jackass Puig may have 'influence' at HRC but that won't stop them from kicking the Pedrobot out at the end of 2009 ;-D

walter said...

totally agree with MotoKing46...humility my arse, it's total arrogance. the bike has to be good enough, the rider has to have the talent, oh - let's not forget having smart engineers, too!

i have $0.05 that says if rossi and the burgess crew were campaigning the RC212V, they'd still be winning.

Anonymous said...

Pedrosa's Manager is also the head of the Repsol Honda team and, based on what he has gotten away with in the past, apparently has pictures of some Honda CEO and a goat in compromising positions. In fact, the real reason for this "admission" is probably to appease him by helping to restore Dani's rep somewhat. The flying midgets' seat at Repsol is as secure as it can be in racing, he's not going anywhere anytime soon.

GFunk said...

In motorsport your ability to win is based on 70% of how good your car is an 30% on your ability.
With bikes it`s the exact opposite - 70% rider skill / 30% bike potential.
I can`t stand that little spanish sh#t - and the sooner honda get rid of him the better.

Anonymous said...

Not a big Honda, Pedrosa or Hayden fan but Honda does have the creds & the rep as far as moto racing goes, & if they happen to sound arrogant with this latest claim, may be worth taking a closer look. Hard to imagine kicking out a champion racer due to arrogance (rebut to ZiggyG); where's Hayden now at the Ducati team? At least Pedrosa can still get to the podium now & then. Am sure there's so much more that Honda considered before letting Hayden go & for claiming their bike sucks now, more than us mere mortals will likely ever know.